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Another bit of history for Bootle
Andrew Watson
Watson signed for Merseyside club Bootle in 1887.[5] Bootle offered wages and signing fees to a number of players,[5] and research by Tony Onslow outlined in The Forgotten Rivals. A history of Bootle Football Club indicates that Watson was paid professionally.[11] This means that Watson's professional career would predate the professional career of Arthur Wharton, who was previously considered to be the first black footballer to play professionally.[5]
Onslow writes that Watson was Bootle's star signing and that the club pulled off the biggest coup in Merseyside by signing the Scotland international player. When Bootle was drawn with a Smethwick side Great Bridge Unity, the Midlands club received a telegram from a 'Smith of Oakfield' who stated that Bootle's Watson and another Scottish player Anderson were being paid - and as such should be ineligible for their tie.[12]
Watson and others were in the Bootle side that beat Unity 2-1; and so directly after the match Unity lodged a complaint with the F.A. The F.A. announced that they would let Bootle proceed to the next round; but they would instead launch an investigation into the club.[13]
Onslow writes:
Bootle Football Club now faced a local FA committee on charge of paying a certain number of their players. Dr. Morley of Blackburn, President of the northern branch, chaired the meeting that took place at the Crompton Hotel in Liverpool. Also present was Morton P. Betts from the London executive and all the prominent members of the Liverpool and District F.A. committee. Former Bootle players Izatt and Weir were called to give evidence before the commitee adjourned and referred the matter to London.
The club was found guilty by the F.A.; but the F.A. punishment was lenient - they had that same season closed Anfield for a month when Everton similarly paid players - and Bootle escaped with a mere caution.[14]
Years Team Apps (Gls)
- Maxwell
1874–1880 Parkgrove
1880–1882 Queen's Park[1]
0 (0)
1882–1884 Swifts
1884–1885 Corinthians
1885–1887 Queen's Park[1]
0 (0)
1887–1892 Bootle
Bobby
Andrew Watson
Watson signed for Merseyside club Bootle in 1887.[5] Bootle offered wages and signing fees to a number of players,[5] and research by Tony Onslow outlined in The Forgotten Rivals. A history of Bootle Football Club indicates that Watson was paid professionally.[11] This means that Watson's professional career would predate the professional career of Arthur Wharton, who was previously considered to be the first black footballer to play professionally.[5]
Onslow writes that Watson was Bootle's star signing and that the club pulled off the biggest coup in Merseyside by signing the Scotland international player. When Bootle was drawn with a Smethwick side Great Bridge Unity, the Midlands club received a telegram from a 'Smith of Oakfield' who stated that Bootle's Watson and another Scottish player Anderson were being paid - and as such should be ineligible for their tie.[12]
Watson and others were in the Bootle side that beat Unity 2-1; and so directly after the match Unity lodged a complaint with the F.A. The F.A. announced that they would let Bootle proceed to the next round; but they would instead launch an investigation into the club.[13]
Onslow writes:
Bootle Football Club now faced a local FA committee on charge of paying a certain number of their players. Dr. Morley of Blackburn, President of the northern branch, chaired the meeting that took place at the Crompton Hotel in Liverpool. Also present was Morton P. Betts from the London executive and all the prominent members of the Liverpool and District F.A. committee. Former Bootle players Izatt and Weir were called to give evidence before the commitee adjourned and referred the matter to London.
The club was found guilty by the F.A.; but the F.A. punishment was lenient - they had that same season closed Anfield for a month when Everton similarly paid players - and Bootle escaped with a mere caution.[14]
Years Team Apps (Gls)
- Maxwell
1874–1880 Parkgrove
1880–1882 Queen's Park[1]
0 (0)
1882–1884 Swifts
1884–1885 Corinthians
1885–1887 Queen's Park[1]
0 (0)
1887–1892 Bootle
Bobby
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bob. b wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:08 pm https://www.facebook.com/10000822742011 ... _video_tab
Need to look at this.
Hope you enjoy this
Great find
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Thank to Eddie
Back row l-r
Bob Holden (manager) Tommy Lawless, Ron Ireland, Peter Thwaite, Charlie Roden, Robbie Doran, Alan Parry, Tucker?
Front row l-r
Seamus Brady, Frank McCann, Johnny Marsden, me, Paul Barwise.
The whole front row along with Peter Thwaite and Robbie Doran still meet up in town for a drink.
Sadly we've lost Bob Holden, Tommy Lawless and Alan Parry. R. I. P.
Can now put them names to faces thanks mate
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Back row l-r
Bob Holden (manager) Tommy Lawless, Ron Ireland, Peter Thwaite, Charlie Roden, Robbie Doran, Alan Parry, Tucker?
Front row l-r
Seamus Brady, Frank McCann, Johnny Marsden, me, Paul Barwise.
The whole front row along with Peter Thwaite and Robbie Doran still meet up in town for a drink.
Sadly we've lost Bob Holden, Tommy Lawless and Alan Parry. R. I. P.
Bob Holden (manager) Tommy Lawless, Ron Ireland, Peter Thwaite, Charlie Roden, Robbie Doran, Alan Parry, Tucker?
Front row l-r
Seamus Brady, Frank McCann, Johnny Marsden, me, Paul Barwise.
The whole front row along with Peter Thwaite and Robbie Doran still meet up in town for a drink.
Sadly we've lost Bob Holden, Tommy Lawless and Alan Parry. R. I. P.
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bob. b
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Well look at this great post thank you
Thanks Gail Coady
Litherland hotel fc.. late 70’s. recognise anyone.. Andy Coady told me to post this, he’s not on Facebook
es a few , Paul stone is one I know x
Uncle peter wildman, mark bailes
he said yes course he does
He said he remembers them all. Ronnie, Roy, Alan, Emmie, Pat. He has a great memory he said he also remembers your nan lives in Sefton road x
The green shirts make them look like a team of goalkeepers
I went to school at St Wilfrids with someone called Peter Wildman in the 50s.
Paul efc Stone with his arm over Andy's shoulder
Flegsy and Wagsy front right
from back left
Peter wildman, Paul Weston, les Napier, Paul stone, Andy Coady, john Anderson, Mike charlton, Kevin mason, Alec Fenton, john Coady
Front row from left
Mark bayliss, Kevin Johnson, Chris Johnson, Bobby boardman, billy Riley, Mike purcell, wagsy bramhall and Philip berril
There you go
Thank you that is going on Bootle JOC post fantastic hope you look in Gail Bobby this could have been lost. We all had great days playing in the JOC Thank you
Bottom row second from end to the right I think it is wagsy
Remember the manager he was Tommy Reilly he’s tucked in at the back 4th from the far right. Alex Fenton second from right back row. Paul Stone with arms over shoulders back row.
Bobby
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Well Bootle JOC
This all started me off from 2009 my Brother Albie well going to do something on him.... sorry brother who you played for some great teams in the JOC and great mates you have.
Remember them days Waterloo Windham Bootle St James Pembroke Bootle YM Litherland could go on me playing with you and John Harris and Charlie
Bobby
This all started me off from 2009 my Brother Albie well going to do something on him.... sorry brother who you played for some great teams in the JOC and great mates you have.
Remember them days Waterloo Windham Bootle St James Pembroke Bootle YM Litherland could go on me playing with you and John Harris and Charlie
Bobby
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Big Thanks to all input members
Albie
Bobhamo
John Quinn
Peter Aylmer
Colly
Mick Mcnally
Tony Rogan
and all the other fantastic people to this post
Still need more pictures or it could be all lost
Now people are cleaning everything if you come across pictures of football teams post them
Bobby
Thank you everyone this is history to me that should never be forgotten wish l had my time to interview Mr Prestoct and others.
When this is all over need to talk our Albie Brian Bromilow Henry and others Eddie O' Brian Sugar Mick Mc Nally the times in the JOC.
All them memories should never be forgotten.
Albie
Bobhamo
John Quinn
Peter Aylmer
Colly
Mick Mcnally
Tony Rogan
and all the other fantastic people to this post
Still need more pictures or it could be all lost
Now people are cleaning everything if you come across pictures of football teams post them
Bobby
Thank you everyone this is history to me that should never be forgotten wish l had my time to interview Mr Prestoct and others.
When this is all over need to talk our Albie Brian Bromilow Henry and others Eddie O' Brian Sugar Mick Mc Nally the times in the JOC.
All them memories should never be forgotten.
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bob. b
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Starting to do some research into Miranda what a team that was in the 1920/30 and still carried on to the 70/80 s think it was all down to the area remember this area was bombed and they built it up. Was it football that brought people together ?? in the area ???
Looking at Bootle Celtic. Bootle St James. Bootle Gas Works. Marsh Lane Electric.
What was it in them days football in Bootle
Football was so big in Bootle why was it the industry area not the wealth or was it the firms
Now starting to look into this
Remember my good mate Eddie's book Wellies in the summer
Thanks, Eddie will never forget that book so true.
Well starting to look at history so taking some time out.
Please please send information on the JOC
Bobby
Looking at Bootle Celtic. Bootle St James. Bootle Gas Works. Marsh Lane Electric.
What was it in them days football in Bootle
Football was so big in Bootle why was it the industry area not the wealth or was it the firms
Now starting to look into this
Remember my good mate Eddie's book Wellies in the summer
Thanks, Eddie will never forget that book so true.
Well starting to look at history so taking some time out.
Please please send information on the JOC
Bobby
