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Bootle Rozzers!

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:16 pm
by bootlebuck
:?: Hi gang, you all appear to have a good archive of Bootle memorys & photo's.As a newby will you permit me to set you a wee test.
My maternal Grandpappy X 3 was know as "THE FATHER OF BOOTLE POLICE",his name was Duncan Mcrae, according to his police file he joined on 7th March 1840 & left on 5th November 1851. Prior to this it is believed he was in Chorley.Now I realise non of you youngsters would have known him but maybe just maybe one of you may have aquired some history of the Bootle Rozzers. I would really like to find out about him & the times he lived in,even better if a photo turned up in someones attic [I do'nt mind the dust or cobwebs :D ]
Thank's in anticipation for all or any info, I await a flood of E/Ms :wink:
Ron H.

BOOTLE POLCE

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:27 pm
by ron waters
HI RON H you mention your G Great Grand Dad being the father of Bootle Police a Mr Duncan M crae from March 1840 til Nov 1851 Ron I have a book compiled by Peter W Woolley all about old Bootle and there is a good article in it all about Bootle polce and it mentions Bootle cum linacre was policed by LancashireCounty Polce Force until 1887 it then became Bootle County Borough Police and its main police station used to be at 2 Derby Rd next to the toll gate FROM RON W

BOOTLE POLICE

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:45 pm
by ron waters
HI again ron where do you live in Lancs I have just been in touch with the book shop who can order a copy for you if you like the price is £12 99The shop is called PRITCHARDS in Crosby telephone 0151 931 1642 or if you live to far away I will go to crosby for you and then send it to you RON W

Bootle Rozzers

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:49 pm
by Peter W
Evening All! I am an ex-Bootle Rozzer and I write the books on Bootle. I live in Bootle, and have a small stock of my books for sale. if you live in the Bootle area I can deliver them, If not I can post them to you.

In my records I have come across a Photostat copy of a photograph of The "Father of Bootle" the late P.C.Duncan McRae.

He died in 1890 aged 98 years, He retired from County Police duty nearly 60 years ago. During his active police career, Mr. McRae had the sole charge of Bootle-there being only one Policeman at that time to cover the whole district.

Hope this has been helpful to you.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:55 pm
by Jan
:lol: :lol:

Hello Peter W,

There was a post on here some time ago about The Teapot Murders in Bootle, do you have any idea when these murders took place? it would put a few curiosities to rest.

Nice to see you posting on here.

The very best to you.

Jan

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:18 pm
by Mack
Goodness me Jan

I've just had a look for that thread. We now have over 4000 articles here to search through. Luckily the search tool top of our forum page found it quickly...

Below is the direct link to the discussion " The Teapot Murders" click on link below...

http://www.bootlehistory.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57


Best wishes

Mack

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:26 pm
by Jan
:lol:

Wow,

Thanks Mack,

I hope Peter W can help us with this one, it has been racking my brain's for ages, I looked for Lyons Street and found that in census records, and it's new name was listed in 1911 Directory for Liverpool (can't recall the name now without looking at the directory) but it said in the directory, formerly Lyons Street.

Cheers....Jan

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:03 pm
by henry
Peter
What are the names of your books and what are the price

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:07 pm
by Jan
:D

Hi Henry,

Go to the Topic Peter Wooley,

Peter has listed his books on there,

I think they are about £12.99

Jan

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:04 am
by Glenys
Peter,
My late father was in the Bootle 'specials', do you have any information on the 'specials'?
There is a photo of him in uniform on this board somewhere.
Glenys

bootle book

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:00 am
by ron waters
HENRY JAN is right , they are £12 99 fr om PRITCHARDS book shop in Crosby , maybe somebody will buy you one for christmas RON W

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:32 am
by Kathy John Moorcroft
Jan wrote::lol:

Wow,

Thanks Mack,

I hope Peter W can help us with this one, it has been racking my brain's for ages, I looked for Lyons Street and found that in census records, and it's new name was listed in 1911 Directory for Liverpool (can't recall the name now without looking at the directory) but it said in the directory, formerly Lyons Street.

Cheers....Jan
Hi Jan, Beresford Street , on Derby Road.close to Millers Bridge, was I think formally called Lyons Street, Evidently it had a terrible `name` (reputation ) and the name was eventually changed, to Beresford Street, streets close by were Effingham Street, and Howe Street, where my father`s family came from . Hope I`m not doing Lyons Street, a dis-service, Recall reading something very recenly re:- `The history of the` Teapot Murders` Regards John

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:12 pm
by Jan
:D

Thanks John.

I would like to find out when these murders took place, perhaps the Bootle Times will have reports in them, but it would be painstaking looking through all the newspapers at Crosby library.

Cheers....Jan

Bootle Rozzers

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:59 pm
by bootlebuck
:oops: Thank's to all you kind folks who repsonded to my query, can I apologise for the delay in answering you all, apart from trying to get to grips with certain aspects of this infernal machine :evil: I have also been trying to catch up on a lot of other stuff after being on tour of Scotland for nearly 6 month. So once more thanks for everything.
Ron H.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:57 pm
by frank delamere
hey ron, are you sure you were not in BARLINNIE when you were in scotland six months is the usual sentence
frank

Peter wooley books

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:44 pm
by Pamsy
[quote="Jan"]:D

Hi Henry,

Go to the Topic Peter Wooley,

Peter has listed his books on there,

I think they are about £12.99

How can I order Peter's books on BOOTLE......????

Bootle Rozzers

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:26 pm
by Peter W
For Pamsy. If you send me your e-mail address i can let you know how to Cheers peter Wg et my books. by post.

Bootle Rozzers

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:28 pm
by Peter W
Was I speaking Gobbldygook. If you send me your e-mail address I can tell you how you ca recieve my books.

Ciao! Peter W

Re: Bootle Rozzers

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:31 pm
by Pamsy
Peter W wrote:Was I speaking Gobbldygook. If you send me your e-mail address I can tell you how you ca recieve my books.

Ciao! Peter W
that is too funny....at first you sounded like you were sippin tea and talkin at same time....remember doing that as a kid....ha ha ha

pkegs@insightbb.com

if I don't respond to ya right away just got news of my ma in law being rushed to hospital and my own mother isn't well at this time but will get back to you as soon as I can...thanks for the quick reply

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:47 pm
by bootlebuck
frank delamere wrote:hey ron, are you sure you were not in BARLINNIE when you were in scotland six months is the usual sentence
frank
You are obviously a stranger to the Grand toon of GLESGA, there is only one big hoose it's called the "BAR L" 8)

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:32 am
by Jan
:D :lol:

Getting back to the topic on Bootle Police,

I was reading the Annals of Liverpool in a directory I have for 1911, and it had this for 1887 The Newly organised Police Force at Bootle commenced their duties June 30th.

There are loads of other little snippets like that, it even lists who the Chief of Bootle Police was etc.

I will go back and try and find it again.

Jan

Re: Bootle Rozzers!

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:58 pm
by Jasper.jasper
Hey Ron H

We have the same maternal grandad × 3
My mum's dad was also called Duncan mcrae and used to say that the father of bootle police uniform was on display at bootle Town Hall. I have tried to find things about him but it's very sparse. I read somewhere that Crosby library has information about him.